Recruiting Pokemon Chronicles

aveontrainer

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I agree. I have the same nostalgic thing like you. My fangame is a remake of all the gen 3 games: fire red + emerald. For johto, i remaked the crystal to make it compatible with gen 3 style. And i remake some events from yellow or other official games. Even the wild encounters and lvs are a mix of gen 1 + 2 and 3. If you played my fangame you will notice this things. I builded a fangame that has 4 entire regions for players to play. This project is at its final stage of development and it gives you lots of stuff that i added, to make it more "complete" with some stuff from further regions. I will post the sprites pack as soon as possible, and take your time to do the sprites.
Sounds good!! Can't wait to play the complete game. I have along list of games to try :)
 

Richard PT

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BUMPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP... I'm still recruiting, but i'm starting losing hope. Come on guys is just minor stuff and i provide samples for you to finish. Its that too complicated for you to help with minor things to complete a huge project with 4 regions? Projects that don't have much to offer has lots of new recruits = lots of work, and mine 0. Yes, i'm mad. Some guys said: projects that already have content to show have a higher chance to have help or form a team, starting projects not. This is not true, its the other way, starting projects have lots of people that wants to help, but in the end, the projects will be abandoned. Mine now has 8 years of developpment and it will be finished by me. You just lost a great oportunity to work on a great fan game like mine. :V
 
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Its that too complicated for you to help with minor things to complete a huge project with 4 regions?
You haven't really elaborated on what you're asking for. You say it's minor, but also that the game is a huge project-it makes the workload estimate confusing.

Projects that don't have much to offer has lots of new recruits = lots of work, and mine 0.
I promise you, nobody is going to want to help you more if you insult other people's work.

Some guys said: projects that already have content to show have a higher chance to have help or form a team, starting projects not. This is not true, its the other way, starting projects have lots of people that wants to help, but in the end, the projects will be abandoned.
This is absolutely true. With beginning projects, there's more work to be done, and people don't have the assurance that the people asking for help will be pitching in as much. You've clearly done a lot on your game to get 18 updates out-why not show off more screenshots, or describe what else makes the game unique? A list of features that includes stuff already in essentials, like "single trainer battles" and "controls and options" system isn't as enticing as seeing that a project's had unique additions made.
 

Richard PT

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You haven't really elaborated on what you're asking for. You say it's minor, but also that the game is a huge project-it makes the workload estimate confusing.


I promise you, nobody is going to want to help you more if you insult other people's work.


This is absolutely true. With beginning projects, there's more work to be done, and people don't have the assurance that the people asking for help will be pitching in as much. You've clearly done a lot on your game to get 18 updates out-why not show off more screenshots, or describe what else makes the game unique? A list of features that includes stuff already in essentials, like "single trainer battles" and "controls and options" system isn't as enticing as seeing that a project's had unique additions made.
First, At the top of my recruiting post, i already posted almost all of the features of the game and a fangame cover with few screenshots, here: https://reliccastle.com/threads/1897/

Hello, everybody.

Anyway, i don't know if you know me or my fan game, but i'm the Pokémon Chronicles fan game creator: Richard PT.

The game recreates the old Pokémon games like: Pokémon Fire Red series + crystall + emerald, (gen 1 + 2 and 3 with stuff from gen. 4 and forth).
Link here: http://pokemonchronicles.forumeiros.net/

At the moment the game has 4 regions for the public players to play.

My Pokémon Chronicles uses the Pokémon Essentials starter kit v 17.2 for rpg maker xp.

PS: Sorry for my bad english, its not my native language.

Game Features:

809 Pokémons to catch;
6 times of the day: morning, afternoon, night, etc;
5 types of weather conditions: Rain, Heavy Rain, Sandstorm, Snowstorm, Heat wave;
4 regions: Kanto, Orange, Johto and Hoenn;
Pokémon can be caught at different times of the day;
28 Badges;
7 Battle frontier symbols;
Many different ribbons;
Pokémon Contests;
Battle Tents;
Bug Catching Contest;
Safari Zones;
More than 800 unique items;
Kurt Pokéballs;
Mini games: Slot Machines, Voltorb Flip, Mining for Treasures, Puzzles, triple Triad, Dodrio Berry Picking, Type Quiz, Lottery System, etc;
Characters from Pokémon series;
Music from Pokémon series;
Single and Double trainer battles;
Trainer Following System;
More than 350 moves;
09 HMs Moves;
Trade Pokémon with other NPC in game;
Phone Calls System;
Pokégear and Pokénav Systems;
Radio System, using in game musics;
Pokéradar System;
VS. Seeker System;
Day-care System;
Birthsigns System;
Following Pokémon System;
Planting Berries System;
Soot Sack System;
Secret Bases System;
18 Pokémon types including Fairy-type;
Pokémon Forms;
Mega Pokémon System;
Primal Pokémon System;
Controls and Options System;
Quests Log System;
And other things...

This is my fangame dvd cover that i madded for fun. I always like to have dvd covers for games that i have. XD

Note: this is a free fan game.

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Pokemon Chronicles Team and positions:

Project creator and leader: Richard PT.
Mapper: Richard PT.
Scripter: Richard PT.
Events: Richard PT.
Graphics Designer: Richard PT.
Other game stuff: Richard PT.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Recruiting:
Positions available:


Overworld trainer spriters: ???
Scriptor (minor stuff): ???

Note: The sprites must be in fire red style or emerald style. I provide samples for you to complete them.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: Your name will be displayed in game's final credits to credit you.
And, for more info, you can check the game's updates with screenshots here: http://pokemonchronicles.forumeiros.net/f1-pokemon-chronicles

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Contact: http://pokemonchronicles.forumeiros.net/f1-pokemon-chronicles
Email: pokemonchroniclesrpg@gmail.com
Discord: Richard PT#5878
Pokemon Chronicles FanGame Server Discord: https://discord.gg/HtjXnN9

Note: Or contact me through this forum or in the pokecommunity forum. (private messages of course) My nick is the same in all places.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Thx for your time.

Second, at the end of that same post, in black words, i said what positions are available and what i need.

Third, I said that for more info, to contact me and i posted the fangames forum link, so players can see the updates of the game, which they always have screenshots.

Fourth, i'm not insulting the others projects, lol. I only mention that some of the projects that are in the earlier stats or some ones that make a lot of promises and if we check them, we say: hey where is this mentioned feature and that? I'm not pointing anything to x or y. lol So its not insulting.

When i mentioned minor stuff, its only a few ow sprites needed, i already have some work done, but help is very appreciated. And sometimes we dev. can be mad when lots and lots of time passes, like few years of trying to recruiting someone, even if its only 1 person. And francly speaking, almost all of the projects will turn abandoned or incompleted. I always saw this things appened in a long time, or in the past years.

The majority of the work is madded by me only, i only need some recources that we devs can't have through searching on the web. And if its confusing, then why people don't ask? Are they shy?

And please, before you go out pointing me a finger, read the main recruiting post, where the info is posted. I'm starting losing faith on people, why? Because they read only what they want to read, even if all the info is there lol. There are other recruitment threads that don't posts any screenchots and don't have a fangame forum with screenshots too. lol

If you are not interested to help, why you botter yourself with this? lol People and kids today don't have a kind heart. lol Move forward.
 
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First, At the top of my recruiting post, i already posted almost all of the features of the game and a fangame cover with few screenshots, here: https://reliccastle.com/threads/1897/
I'm aware of this. That's why I said this:
A list of features that includes stuff already in essentials, like "single trainer battles" and "controls and options" system isn't as enticing as seeing that a project's had unique additions made.
Look at what you've included in your list. Six times of day? NPC trades? 18 types, when 17 are already done? Single battles? Controls? These are things found in the default essentials kit. (And controls are a basic element of any game)

Why don't you highlight what you've added to the game? What are the Orange Islands like? What are you doing with your Battle Frontier? What is the Dodrio Berry Picking like? How does the player move between regions? What are the quests like?

Second, at the end of that same post, in black words, i said what positions are available and what i need.
And in those black words, you wrote:
Recruiting:
Positions available:


Overworld trainer spriters: ???
Scriptor (minor stuff): ???
That tells what type of work you need, but not how much. There's nothing about how many characters are needed, or what the scripts are going to be like. How can someone know that what's minor for you is minor for them?
Third, I said that for more info, to contact me and i posted the fangames forum link, so players can see the updates of the game, which they always have screenshots.
But if they have to put in extra effort just to understand what your project is like, that makes it seem like you're not willing to put much effort in yourself, even if you already have a lot accomplished.
Fourth, i'm not insulting the others projects, lol. I only mention that some of the projects that are in the earlier stats or some ones that make a lot of promises and if we check them, we say: hey where is this mentioned feature and that? I'm not pointing anything to x or y. lol So its not insulting.
You didn't say anything about not delivering on promises-you said they "didn't have a lot to offer". That's definitely insulting.
And sometimes we dev. can be mad when lots and lots of time passes, like few years of trying to recruiting someone, even if its only 1 person.
So why is it that you're the only person who post about being so mad like this? Nobody else writes on their recruitment thread that "other projects don't have much to offer".

And this thread hasn't even been up a full year yet. You can't blame people here for a lack of success somewhere else.
And francly speaking, almost all of the projects will turn abandoned or incompleted. I always saw this things appened in a long time, or in the past years.
Telling people that you're sure they're going to give up isn't going to make them want to work for you.
The majority of the work is madded by me only, i only need some recources that we devs can't have through searching on the web. And if its confusing, then why people don't ask? Are they shy?
Because you're the one asking for help. People can script and sprite on their own if they want to, and if it's more trouble to figure out what you want, they're not going to be as interested.
I'm starting losing faith on people, why? Because they read only what they want to read, even if all the info is there lol.
Of course they only read what they want to read. They're not getting paid or getting a grade for fan games-they're only doing it for fun. And if what you posted doesn't interest them, they don't have any obligation to keep reading.
There are other recruitment threads that don't posts any screenchots and don't have a fangame forum with screenshots too. lol
I'm not saying it's a sin not to include screenshots, I was suggesting it as a way to get someone's attention.
If you are not interested to help, why you botter yourself with this?
Because I was wanting to encourage you to find better ways to ask for help, instead of getting mad
lol People and kids today don't have a kind heart. lol Move forward.
You trash talked other people games and said they would all give up on them, but someone saying "Hey, maybe don't do that if you want to recruit people" is the one without a kind heart?
 

Richard PT

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I'm aware of this. That's why I said this:

Look at what you've included in your list. Six times of day? NPC trades? 18 types, when 17 are already done? Single battles? Controls? These are things found in the default essentials kit. (And controls are a basic element of any game)

Why don't you highlight what you've added to the game? What are the Orange Islands like? What are you doing with your Battle Frontier? What is the Dodrio Berry Picking like? How does the player move between regions? What are the quests like?


And in those black words, you wrote:

That tells what type of work you need, but not how much. There's nothing about how many characters are needed, or what the scripts are going to be like. How can someone know that what's minor for you is minor for them?

But if they have to put in extra effort just to understand what your project is like, that makes it seem like you're not willing to put much effort in yourself, even if you already have a lot accomplished.

You didn't say anything about not delivering on promises-you said they "didn't have a lot to offer". That's definitely insulting.

So why is it that you're the only person who post about being so mad like this? Nobody else writes on their recruitment thread that "other projects don't have much to offer".

And this thread hasn't even been up a full year yet. You can't blame people here for a lack of success somewhere else.

Telling people that you're sure they're going to give up isn't going to make them want to work for you.

Because you're the one asking for help. People can script and sprite on their own if they want to, and if it's more trouble to figure out what you want, they're not going to be as interested.

Of course they only read what they want to read. They're not getting paid or getting a grade for fan games-they're only doing it for fun. And if what you posted doesn't interest them, they don't have any obligation to keep reading.

I'm not saying it's a sin not to include screenshots, I was suggesting it as a way to get someone's attention.

Because I was wanting to encourage you to find better ways to ask for help, instead of getting mad

You trash talked other people games and said they would all give up on them, but someone saying "Hey, maybe don't do that if you want to recruit people" is the one without a kind heart?
I don't agree with some things you said, but its only my view and opinion and you have yours. Before posting here the recruitment post, I've posted in other websites. Before knowing the existance of this one for example. 1 year has a lot of days, for this thread lol. Maybe i must update the features list, but several fan games said pratically the same, so don't blame me on that. Besides, i said that the fan game is a remake/remaster from the official ones, that says almost all, no?

If people don't know what i need or pretend with the recources that i'm asking, why they don't ask? Pratically all fan games here recruits people but they don't say how many sprites are needed, what scripts and etc. They just recruit people whithout saying what stuff needs to be done. lol

For example: If i have a scripter, i only need his help to update pokemon contests, and some, let me see 3 or 4 old scripts that need some fixes or updatings, noting more. For the sprites its just, let me see, around 10 ow walking sprites from npcs from the series and all ow for the heroes from sinnoh, unova and alola, like surf, dive, those things for player to control. So its minor things.

I've done almost everything on the game, things that don't belong in my creations, i post their names in the updates or in the game final credits, so everyone can see who madded this and that.

You talked about those things about me but everyone posted the same features or publicity, only one or two things are new, so you can't point me a finger. You have your opinions and i have mine. There are even projects that don't say much about their project or work and others that seems that they want "workers" to do all the job from themselves, instead of doing the major part like me, all alone.

Sorry if i don't understand some of your points, but in my point of view, i only mentioned the cruel reality of things, i helped some pokemon fan games projects in the past, but due to their lack of organization, they abandoned their projects, someones with potential others not so much. And as i can see here, some of them will go the same way. So, i was thinking, what a waste of recources.

Working alone for almost 8 years is too much, and if people don't know what i want, they must talk to me, so i can say what its needed to the project. Now, if you want to encourage me, try other ways lol.

Maybe i will finish the rest myself, as always. PEOPLE MUST TALK MORE.

Look, i know your point, but sometimes, people must confront reality. And if a guy makes a fan game project for ex, they must have the schematics already on their minds before recruiting, if not they probably turn abandoned, so it's not insulting in my country, just a way to see things.

I did not do nothing wrong, i only said whats in my mind, maybe a bit cruel, but its the reality of things.

I don't want to talk and extend more of this conversation, its not healty. You only express your opinion, and i expressed mine. Nothing more. I have reasons to post this and that.

Maybe i go silent with the recruitment posts, i will finish the project before i get someone dedicated. :/
 

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Nobody owes you anything, and you don't owe anyone anything. If you want someone to help you with your game, you have to appeal to them or excite them. You can compare your game with others all you want, but chances are they either didn't end up finding anyone either, or they did because their presentation was better.
Throwing a tantrum certainly doesn't improve your odds of recruiting anyone dedicated though.
 

aveontrainer

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BUMPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP... I'm still recruiting, but i'm starting losing hope. Come on guys is just minor stuff and i provide samples for you to finish. Its that too complicated for you to help with minor things to complete a huge project with 4 regions? Projects that don't have much to offer has lots of new recruits = lots of work, and mine 0. Yes, i'm mad. Some guys said: projects that already have content to show have a higher chance to have help or form a team, starting projects not. This is not true, its the other way, starting projects have lots of people that wants to help, but in the end, the projects will be abandoned. Mine now has 8 years of developpment and it will be finished by me. You just lost a great oportunity to work on a great fan game like mine. :V
I already told you I would help when I have more free time. No need to be posting stuff like this. No one owes you anything. You aren't paying me. So I will do it on my own schedule or time. Writing posts like this will only make me not want to help you. I already told you that in the winter time I will make every character you requested. Because they are already on my list of characters to make. You ask is that too complicated? Have you made any character sets yourself? If you had you would know how complicated it really is. Especially when the artist cares about the quality of their work.
 
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We have already suggested that he try to do an OW however he insists that he cannot do without even trying. I assure you that if you tried and posted your work, people would help you, as other artists do. What's more, being OW of official characters, sooner or later some designer will do. Keeping up with DA on their work (example aveontrainer) and looking for more qualified people would be helpful.
 

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1- Sorry and i apology for my "behavior". I was not intended to insult, make you sad or angry with me.

2- I posted this to attract atention and to be criticized on porpose. This "comotion" is a fake. Why? A friend of mine is conducting an experience/study, about the reactions of people that have fan games projects like the ones we are working on, in some foruns that he picked at random by searching on the net. To improve better his employees, in terms of relactions, reactions, comunicating with each other, what they do if in some situations like this one for example, etc.

3- So, sorry to "trick" you. XD He said that this example with 4 critics from 4 forum members is perfect enough, for his report, that he is doing. I apology again, but if i don't helped the guy, he can lose his job. So, i picked up my impatience about the ow sprites to cause this little mess.

4- Aveontrainer, i know what you said about your free time, but i said that i can give you something in return for helping me. I said that i can give you some ow sprites that i already have or make to your collection and for others.

5- Wolf, i know that you said that to me, i already have done some ow sprites in the past and other kind of graphics. I helped you to with little things, like for ex: i gaved to you my gen 7 ow sprites that i collected through time, and the pokemon follower speeches for your script and those tests we have done together about the corrosion ability.

6- But i'm very impatiente recently. Why? My health is not good by the minute and i need the rest of the sprites to finish the project as quickly as possible. I have lots of pain almost all the time, sometimes i must go to bed to rest, my emotions starts to be affected as well, because of my depression, concentration problems, rare cases of memory loss, and other sintoms. I can't cure some of this aspects through medicine, because i have a rare disease that i even can't tell that weird name. lol Also, my life is ruined right now, I can't find a job in my town, i don't have any money, some people poisoned me on porpose to kill me because they want my heritage that i will receive from my grandfather, and other problems. And i'm always alone to fix all this issues for more or less 20 years now, because this family wars started before i was born, i only have a brother and a mother that stay at my side, the rest of the family, friends, turned their backs to us without any reason. In the past i helped people, some of them were sick in that time, others with family issues, etc. I fixed their problems and now they don't care to return the favors.

7- I opened here for you and sorry to "trick" you just to help another guy with his life. This was all staged by him, i just added my ow sprites impatience to the mix. XD All of my dreams were cuted off and i only have this little one. Sometimes i've tried to post some links here and there, but for some odd reason they got deleted sometimes. So, i'm posting on my DA account. And for the "get paid" part, i always or sometimes i said that i can give something in return, you just tell me if you need something.

8- Before this, i asked him: "why we just ask the forum members about this, first?" He said: "because, it will not sound natural. We must staged something to make like it was real. I know that they will be angry with you, but, you can explain everything for them later on. If i lose my job, i can't put food in the table for my kids and wife, so, please help me."

Again, sorry for anything. Have a nice day and a good life, because mine will not be that long. T-T And don't came to Portugal, this country is ruined already. Please understand my situation and sorry for this.
 

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Again, sorry for anything. Have a nice day and a good life, because mine will not be that long. T-T And don't came to Portugal, this country is ruined already. Please understand my situation and sorry for this.
As a fellow Tuga, I disagree. Country may be ruined to live in, but it's still a great place to visit and spend holidays.
 
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